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I have bought a murci kit off extreme and have not recived some parts of the kit, I have also had a lot of trouble installing the kit to the mr2 with frame work and pannels not linning up properly. I have tried to ring and email them more times than I can remember with no luck of getting in contact with them.
I dont know if im being to fussy with pannels linning up or not but can I get in contact with some other people that have built one? Also have any of you had problems with them not supplying the full kit?

I got my wife to send them a email from her address to pretend she wanted to buy a kit and they replied in 1 day I have been waiting 3 months, seems to me like they take your money and run.

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hi, where about  are u?  may be you can pay them a visit.

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I have a part built Murci kit. All the panels do line up... but it does take time tweaking it here and there. My best advice when fitting them is dont stress any panel, let them go where they want. I found the frame could be mm's out one side to the other and this makes it look like the panels are out but there not. The sill's are a good place to start as these will enable you to place the bottom of the wing and the rear quarter correctly. Also make sure the panels are stored correctly, its quite easy to misshape them if stored wrong. (Best place for them is on the frame)

Let me know how you get on.

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Hi mate, where abouts are you?
The kits take time to get everything working and in the right place. The panels do fit well & when in exactly the right place will line up properly. You will need to fill some areas a little to get it 100%, but you should be able to get it pretty much right without too much. There are lots of hints and tips about moving bits of panels around or raising one panel by a few mm etc, that will help everything to slot into place. If you get some photos and post them up here, or just describe what problems you are having, we can try to help.

Extreme have been mega busy & have had a few probs with someone helping out whilst damian was away, so that may have been why you werent getting a response. It should be better now though & they do come on here every so often.

There are a few building a murci on here including me, so if you ask us your qns we will try to help as best we can. 

Get some pics up & we can make you an owner member & you can access our build diaries which should give you loads more info.

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I live in New Zealand so wont be able to visit them. They got me angry right from the start by my kit turning up 6 months after I paid for it in full and its been another 3 months and I still dont have the build DVD thats why I find it hard to have patiance for it. There is no excuise for thet sort of shocking service.
Anyway just a few of the problems im having are bolt the front bumper to the frame and bolt the bonnet on and there is a 12mm gap between them at the front of the bonnet.
To make the body sit right on the frame the rear bumper is tight on one mount and has a 10mm gap on the other side.
When the doors are bolted on they sit 100mm away from the roof in the back corner.
The gap around the air scoops is uneven.
The engine cover is not parallel in length it has a 5mm gap between it and the rear quater and the other side is 10mm.
The list goes on and on but that is enough ill post some photos up.     

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Hi mate, initial look at those photos look fine for a first positioning. You have to work from hard points that cant be moved & work around these points to make the rest of the car fit. The problem with the murci kit is that there are very few hard points to work from.

A few quick points, but we will need more pics of certain areas to assess if you have parts just right. If you have a look at my build diary you will see how I have got my panels to line up & how you  may need to alter yours. I can also do comparison measurements from mine to yours to double check if any of your panels are wrong as you seem to believe they are.

The bonnet line up looks good on yours, the gap is just too big. From this you either need to move the bumper into the car or the bonnet forwards. If the bumper is already on the frame with no spacers and the frame is definetly in the correct place and as far back as it will go, then you have a hard point to work from and will HAVE to make the bonnet and wings match the bumper. Use the adjustment in the holes at both ends of the bonnet hinge and you should be able to move the bonnet forwards & get the correct gap you are looking for. If it still doesnt work, then ease out the holes in the metal plates holding the hinge, or unbolt the whole main frame & move it forwards by a few mm.

One thing to remember, which I always say to everyone bulding these kits is that NOTHING and I mean NOTHING should be final fixed until you are 100% happy that all the panel lines line up & all parts hinges, gas struts etc are fitted and working. (that includes the main steel frame on the murci) Sure it creates more work as you have to temporary fix, then dissasemble and permenent fix, which feels like you have built the car twice, but it is the only way to get everything lined up right.

I have on several occasions on the murci ended up moving the roof panel or rear quarters (the main panels for fixing) a few mm to get things to work. Which in turn means everything else has to move too.

Once you have the bonnet and wings on and temporarily held, the bottom edge of the wing will give you a rough position for your sills. These give you the fixed width for the bottom of your doors and the position you will need your rear quarters to be in. Fix them temporarily to the metal frame at the sill area & hold the front wing and rear wing onto the sill. This gives you the fixed gap that has to be correct between the front wing and rear quarter. This again is a hard point. The gap cant change. Sit your door in the gap and check for a good alignment around the door. This tells you if the front and rear are banana shaped relative to each other. The bottom of the door will be the right dimension, you just have to adjust the wings to match the door shape.

Now you have done this on both sides and have the rear quarters inthe right position. Looking from the rear, the left hand one will be closer to the rear metalwork than the right hand one i.e will appear to be slightly further back than the right hand one. This is correct,the gap is just relative to the metalwork & once all the panels are in position it is not a problem.

The rear quarters do not sit directly on the frame at the rear. The dvd shows them sitting on the frame at the back & about 10mm off the frame at the front. On mine, this needed to be increased at both the back and front. You use the frames as fixings, but they dont dictate the exact location of the panels.

Depending on the exact height you set your frame at will depend on how close your roof sits to your metal frame. Mine is around 10mm higher than the frame & is supported by small brackets all around, which i will use to bond the roof on. The roof location can move backwards to line up to your engine cover, which will in turn move the back edge of your cover to close up the gap onto the rear quarters. The gap at the bottom of the screen surround has an amount of play so you can float the roof back and forwards to get a good match and location at the back of the engine cover/ rear screen area.

Your batwings are not in the correct position, you need to get the gap and location of the bottom front corner and top rear corner correct relative to the rear quarter. Then you raise the rear quarter back part until the lines work. I will get some pics of what mine looked like before and after to show you what I mean. You can get that gap you have to be equal, but you have to rotate your batwing location clockwise using the adjusters under it, this will then mean the top front corner will be high compared tot he bodywork, you then have to pull the rear quarter away from the frame, which will effectively raise it, then you raise the roof to match then the engine cover to match (you havent bonded this to the hinges yet have you?) then you will find things will satrt to line up better.

I believe the door problem is caused by the lower point of the front wing (where it joins the sill) being too close to the MR2. If you relax that area and pull it out, instead of trying to make it touch the frame, this will allow the top rear where you have the big gap to go closer to the car where it should be. Also if you have pulled the rear quarter out to get the batwings in the right place, this will move the body closer to your door too! Have you bolted the door to the hinge yet? Doing that will give you another fixed point. Take care when opening the door though, not to chip the edge of the front wing.

Sorry if all the above doesnt make sense or if im telling you stuff you have already tried, I can describe each area more for you with photos if you start a build diary & we can help you get your car sorted.

The murci's require a reasonable amount of tweaking and positioning to get it all to fit nicely. This is one of the things about having a multi piece kit rather than a single piece tub, but the advantages & better look of the car are really worth the extra effort.

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Here's a picture of the frontend.. Took a couple of days to get right. Had to oval out the holes which allowed a little more movement.



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